Those that grab the gun in the room

In another adventure in social networking, I joined a debate I saw in my Twitter feed to offer support for someone that was complaining about his student loans and not being able to pay them. Now, the support I was offering was for him to be innovative and find new ways to make money. As conversations sometimes can do, it deteriorated into an economic and political debate.  There was a lot of droning on about how schools are so important but then when I and the other two would point out how they are woefully insufficient he would sort of agree. We all go back and forth for way too long. He disses my suggestion that a free market would fair better in education than government run… blah, blah, yada, yada… same stuff we all have to hear in a debate… “free markets haven’t been working” – “please don’t think we have a free market now”… blah… blah… blah… He says patents, etc keep markets back, I agree pointing out those are government run programs, not free market programs, etc, etc, etc…

Here is where it gets interesting:

I should note here that he also was stating that society owes it to educate each other and that research is valuable and needed (I pointed out that university research as far as educating people means squat and that people can research and invent, etc w/out gov run universities). I had also suggested that if he is having problems paying back his loans now that he needs to slow down (he has AS and wants a BS and then a PhD). I reminded him that going to college was *his* choice, not mine. He eludes that doing things other than his way is immoral, I call him out on it.

Finally, I pull a “Stefan” on him:

Me: i owe nothing to no one but myself and my family. why should i be forced under threat of violence to care for those that will not take care of me? i am independent. i don’t want anyone else to take care of my needs, besides anyone able to give you everything can also take it away.

Him: you DO owe others. You did not grow up in a vacuum. Society helped provide an environment. You must be part of that now. Hate to break it to you, but the Gov’t has the ability to take by force from you anything you have, no matter how you got it.

Me: so you don’t believe in liberty then… I’m a Rothbardian. you won’t change me. Check him out: http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=category&ID=87 BTW they have the ‘ability’ to steal from me b/c you give them that ability.

Him: sure I believe in liberties. Positive liberties count as liberties. No, they have that ability because society saw fit to give them guns.

Me: Society is not an individual. liberty is liberty. you cannot change its definition to suit your own desires. which is why *some* of us still have our own (guns).

Him: Right, society is a collection of people. We all help each other out. Some are just less charitable about it. I’m not, go forth and discover the preexisting definition of positive liberty.

Me: putting another word with “liberty” doesn’t change it’s definition. you cannot decide what is positive for other people.

Now, from this point. I should have stopped. The print out of our total conversation is 16 pages long! He made it clear that he has no problems accepting the proverbial gun in the room and using force to pay him for an education that he thinks he deserves because to him it means he can contribute his research later, as if that is some guarantee of making society better. It gets worse. He brings up utopia and I bring up free will. He says free will is an illusion. I propose that he is using his own free will to type this ongoing debate on Twitter and, I kid you not, he says it’s society and science that is making him do it. I suggest he embrace his identity and his power and own it, to stop handing them both over to other people and entities such as ‘society’ and ‘government’. He tells me to not force my idea of identity on him… you see where this madness is going right? Yup! You guessed it! But who will build the roads… I had quit replying before he posted that last bit but it always comes down to that doesn’t it?

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Movie and anti-fascist posters at UWS allowed back up!

YES! For everyone contacting the University of Wisconsin – Stout: THANK YOU! They ‘reconsidered’ the decision and are allowing them back up if the professor that was threatened with criminal action against him wants to put them back up.

Another quote from the series in question, “Firefly” is also from Cap’n Mal: “We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.” Amen, Cap’n… Amen!

I gotta add a couple Jayne quotes too, of course: when it comes to posters, use the mantra “Shiny… Let’s be bad guys!” and when you need to make a decision on a course of action that may have less than pleasant results, follow this one, “Shepherd Book once said to me, ‘If you can’t do something smart, do something right.’”

More links about the original situation and the end result:

Original situation, joint post by ‘Liberty_Chick’ and Adam Baldwin, who any good Firefly/Serenity fan knows played Jayne Cobb on the show and movie: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abandlc/2011/10/04/university-professor-censored-over-firefly-poster/

End result: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoodland/2011/10/04/breaking-wisconsin-university-reverses-decision-to-remove-firefly-poster/

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Banned Firefly Poster issue on University Campus continues

As expected, I’ve not received a response from my initial email. I’ve chosen a different tactic with a new email after finding out that the University is not willing to talk about this further. (See HERE) Below is what I sent. I really do need to make time to call these people tomorrow as a show of support.

Dear Sirs,

I cannot understand what the fuss is over a movie poster. The tactics that the University has chosen over civility is not showing a favorable light in a place where active discussion between adults should not only be fostered but is supposed to be taught to the people attending, becoming adults themselves. Please reconsider the current course of actions. Strong-armed tactics such as what have been done are a flat violation of the First Amendment of the United States of America and if you start here, where does it stop? Will every movie and gaming poster be ripped from the walls on campus? What example does this set for the people attending this campus? Not a very good one I would bet. It has the appearance of outright bullying instead of proper, mature conversation and even debate.

I hope you reconsider the actions taken thus far as soon as possible. Please show your students that freedom of expression is too dear to surrender to panic over a poster whose meaning was completely lost on someone that apparently prefers to live in fear and ignorance.

Thank you for your time. I hope to hear a positive response from this situation soon.

Regards,

-red

This was sent to Sorensen as before and the author of the letter declining the talk with Miller. His information is below:

R.S. Hayes, Interim Dean
College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences
University of Wisconsin-Stout
(715) 232-2596
[email protected]
fax ~ (715)232-134

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My Email about Zero Tolerance being code for Rights Killing

In light of this: http://thefire.mobify.me/article/13595.html

I decided to email Charles W. Sorensen, Chancellor, University of Wisconsin–Stout (phone: 715-232-2441, email: [email protected]). Below is my very simple email to him:

So, I have to ask, will ALL gaming and movie posters be ripped off all the walls too? How long will “zero tolerance” (code for “rights killing”) continue to infantalize people and treat everyone as victims while at the same time creating its own victims? Just asking…

I will update with any responses when *if* I get any. I may have to call him on this one, too, as emails are easy to ignore.

Read the article and be a Browncoat for a moment – fight this evil Alliance-like tactic and be an independent! *yes, that was a shameless Firefly reference* *yes, I’m a proud Browncoat!*

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Grown-up Truths

Okay, I had to post this. This is so stinkin’ funny! I STILL have tears in my eyes from laughing so hard! Hope y’all enjoy it as much as I did!

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Science Fiction as Science Fact?

On the heels of the much loved Dragon Con, which I regrettably was unable to attend, I found this article on things that were written about in science fiction long before they were science fact:

10 Sci-Fi Predictions That Came True

I was astonished! I had no idea that Mark Twain had written about the internet in 1898 or that credit cards were written about in 1888! There are somethings that are pretty common knowledge, like Verne basically talking about scuba diving long before it was real or Wells describing the atom bomb 30 years prior to its invention and use.

But seriously, it makes you wonder. I know an author (Tarrin Lupo) who has written a sci-fi short story after a conversation on Facebook about something that is entirely plausible! It’s called “The Necessity of Man” (Available on Amazon and Smashwords) and, well, just read it. How many of you can see some of the things he talks about actually coming true?

I’ve already mentioned the two in that article above that just really grabbed my attn: Twain and the internet and Edward Bellamy and credit cards. Twain, in 1898 wrote a story in which a condemned murdered was proven innocent when his alleged victim was seen via live feed from an event in China. As awesome as that is, it was Bellamy’s that really left my jaw dropped!

Quoting from the article:

When he wrote about the use of credit cards in 1888, Edward Bellamy was pulling ideas out of the air, as shoppers could only buy something on credit if they knew the salesperson. In his novel “Looking Backwards”, Bellamy described credit card transactions that could be taking place today, even down to the duplicate receipts.

The novel is about a man who falls asleep in 1888 to awaken in the year 2000 to a socialist society. In Bellamy’s version of the future, the credit card system is backed by the credit of the American government. Each person is given a certain line of credit on his or her card and the government uses part of the GDP to pay off that credit. Bellamy even described how the credit card could be used the world over, for all types of currency.

I was just like… “Wow!” Exactly what part of this ISN’T true today? All of it was real in 2000. Sure most people think we are a “democracy”, some still think we are a “republic” but we are not. We have a lot of socialist programs that almost everyone on any side of a political scale will defend to the detriment of their supposed philosophy – from Medicare and Medicaid, to Social Security and SS Disability, to protection services, to infrastructure services and more. Our money is issued by an international bank that is then loaned to the government and the government outlaws all other forms of trade and payment. So the government issues the coin that we are to use, and it gets that coin through instant debt. So again, what part of that story ISN’T true?

Another two stories, not mentioned in the above article that I think is well worth mentioning, are “The Illustrated Man” and “Fahrenheit 451″, both by Ray Bradbury. Don’t watch the movies. Read the books. The amount and type of technology is astounding! Wall sized TVs that users interact with, entire rooms that are basically virtual reality games, space travel and more – not to mention more libertarian themes. In fact, “Fahrenheit 451″ was censored when it first came out! A book about books being outlawed was censored – go figure. Naturally, another worth mentioning is Orwell’s “1984″. All of these are must-reads, in my opinion.

I remember, fondly, watching Aeon Flux on MTV when I was in high school. As a young kid, I never missed an episode of the original Star Trek, laying on the couch curled up in my daddy’s arms watching it. And EVERY kid in my generation loved Star Wars (the original releases that is: Epi IV, Epi V and Epi VI)! And there were others that I liked but I never considered myself a “sci-fi fan”.  But, even if I was not a raging sci-fi fan, I always loved science (real science, not the pseudo-religious science we see all the time now like with policy being made off it – global warming, etc). I started changing my tune on sci-fi earlier this year when I discovered for the first time ever the tv show, Firefly and subsequent movie, Serenity. If you haven’t seen them – YOU MUST! They are currently on Netflix Instant Play (which is how I saw them). You can watch them in the proper order (FOX, the original airing network screwed it up by showing it out of order, which I believe was a big reason why it never took off when it aired in 2002). I LOVED the stories and the characters and the very libertarian tones throughout the episodes and movie. I even did a brief blog about what in those shows that I see as fact and not fiction: Science Fiction or Science Fact.

I’m a devout Browncoat now and am taking a look at other sci-fi stories being told. I think Bellamy’s book will be the very next one I read. Maybe we ALL should be taking a look at sci-fi. You never know how much you will read in it now, that will be in your household in years to come.

My to-read list begins:

Looking Backwards” by Edward Bellamy

“From the ‘London Times’ of 1904″ by Mark Twain

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Strumming the tune of the Sixth Amendment on an illegal guitar while drinking unlicensed lemonade

The idea of “innocent until proven guilty” is a very simple idea, and one that is quite feasible to apply in practice, not just theory. It, indeed, makes up one of the very basic ideas in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution of the United States. The Sixth Amendment states:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

This basically says that everyone has the right to present their case before everyday folks and that prosecution better have solid proof. It’s something that Americans can boast about as there are many, many tyrannical governments all over the globe where one accused is immediately sentenced to some form of terrible corporal punishment. These kinds of so-called “justice” systems are relegated to witch-hunt style prosecution where anyone with a grudge can take advantage. And not just people with a grudge against a neighbor, the government itself is allowed to make some random claim of someone they think is a threat and imprison them without real charges, no jury trial, punished and even executed. This is why the Sixth Amendment is in the Bill of Rights. A fair trial for a real chance at proving innocence was something that the framers wanted to ensure they and future Americans had.

So what in the world is going on with all of the stupid laws? Seems like as each day passes, there is some new stupid law that makes more people “criminals”, even though there is absolutely no victim. The two most glaring examples of this in the news as of late is lemonade stands (and other kid-run stands like bake sales and Girl Scout cookie sales) and then last week, for the second time in the past few years, Gibson Guitars was raided and had product seized. They were raided in 2009, with products seized, but they were never formally charged and they still have not received their seized products back. What is the alleged crime? Where are the accusers? Where is the speedy trial? In this case, it would appear that this is more about another country’s law and not our own but because of the imposing Lacey Act, it would seem they are trying to make it look more like a U.S. issue in the end. Please see my blog “Bad Guy Activity of the Week – Making and playing… guitars and pianos?” for more information about the Gibson raid.


So what can we do if we are watching a mom and her daughter face a judge and a hefty fine for having a lemonade stand at a farmer’s market? What would you do to help Gibson get what the Bill of Rights is SUPPOSED to guarantee all Americans have? Well, there are plenty of things we can do and one of the greatest is to be informed! As informed citizens, we can contact the law agencies putting us through such tribulations – like contacting the Department of Justice and getting information from them regarding the Gibson case, demanding that something be done. But what’s more important that can really help catapault the Sixth Amendment? The idea of Jury Nullification! Image that Gibson Guitars is at trial, if you believe that the Lacey Act is unconstitutional and that the DOJ acting to attempt to enforce a mundane law from another country is unconstitutional, then you can refuse to find someone “not guilty” of a crime, even if there is a “law” making that activity a crime.

Here are some more resources on jury nullification:

The Future of Freedom Foundation – Bill of Rights: Trial by Jury

Fully Informed Jury Association – FIJA

Tenth Amendment Center’s Nullify Now

Another of my blog entries: “How ‘Bad’ Guys Can Make It Right Again”

Please take a few moments to look over these sites and share this information. It is possible for “We, The People” to make things right and get the power back in our own hands. We can’t wait for others (elected politicians) to do it for us. We have to be the change we wish to see!

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The Delicate Dance of Human Interaction

He steps, she steps. He spins, she spins. Left, then right. Back, then forward and back again. One takes, one gives and they switch.  The two move – one leading, the other following, but all in the same swift, seamless move. One watching would never know who is leading as the two are moving as one force. Every step counts and every count is stepped. This is a beautiful expression, an art – two people in engaged in a voluntary activity, leaving their story in their footprints as they move across the floor.

The same can apply to many things, including debating. Debating is not something that comes naturally to most people. It takes a lot of work and it is wise to do your own research and find where you stand on issues before jumping into any discussion, especially when it comes to economics and politics. Like a dance, it takes learning and practice to get it right, but when a debate goes as it should – at its core, it is a beautiful thing to watch. It becomes an environment that flourishes with active listening, educated points and counter points and respect for all involved. One show of temper, one show of disrespect, one show of ignorance would be all it would take to break the delicate and intricate flow of the debate, just as a misstep would do the same to the flow of a dance.

This isn’t about just economics or politics though. This is about how people can relate to each other.  Friends, family, spouses, children… I have lost some ties that I would have preferred to have in my life forever, because of my inability to understand the basic ideas behind human interaction, the dance. The metaphor is like a lifelong wall flower, and when I would step on the dance floor, I would end up stepping on toes, whether I meant to or not. Even a sincere apology cannot mend all broken relationships. We are all human, we all have our own experiences, but it is a lie to not allow yourself to learn from the experiences of others. When we approach a debate or confrontation from a place of respect, even love, it is possible to survive it and both people become stronger because of it.  It can be a painful process of introspection, but without that reflection and ability to make adjustments, how can we grow?  We wouldn’t. Our feet would start to grow roots, rendering us unable to dance until they are cut by something that can be far more destructive than we ever imagined.

So, today, instead of scoffing at someone for their differences, be they political, economic, religious or something else, embrace them and share your life with them. We will be surprised how much more life can reveal to us when we are open to it.

*****

One of my favorite songs is representative of what I’ve said today: “How to Save a Life” – The Fray

Lyrics:

Step one you say we need to talk
He walks you say sit down it’s just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
You begin to wonder why you came

CHORUS:
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life

Let him know that you know best
Cause after all you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you’ve told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
And pray to God he hears you

CHORUS:
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life

As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you’ve followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he’ll say he’s just not the same
And you’ll begin to wonder why you came

CHORUS:
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life

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